One-piece vs 2-piece rods

John · Post by **John** » Mon May 07, 2007 9:31 am

Ive used two and three piece rods my whole life, they are standard in the UK. Never had a problem with them, never had a rod come apart either.

They're really is no disecernable diffeference in sensitivity, or in the action, I've landed fish up to 77lb on two piece rods and they were just fine.

Since getting my new truck which has shorter 6'6" bed, I'll be gradually switching over to two pieces just for the ease of transporting them.

fishinfoflounder · Post by **fishinfoflounder** » Tue May 08, 2007 5:12 am

flyfisher000 wrote:I have a Winston 5wt. 5 piece fly rod. You can't tell the difference in the action beween that rod and a 1 piece rod. With a 1 piece rod you will most of the time have to bend it a litttle to make it fit in the car.

Sensitivity really isn't an issue when fly fishing as you're not feeling the bite you're watching the line.
I'm not trying to turn every post into an arguement. Just giving my views sometime a little crass. I fish alot of water salt & fresh. With larger harder hitting saltwater fish sensitivity isn't so much an issue but , fishing Largemouth Bass after a cold front. It's an issue.
If there was no discernable difference in one or 2 or 3 piece rods they wouldn't make 1 piece rods. So far as strength try cranking in a 90 lb. king on a 2 piece. Does the word splinters mean anything to you?
Facts are facts 1 piece rods are more sensitive,stronger & less likely to give you any of the problems you can incur using a multipiece rod.

greyloon · Post by **greyloon** » Tue May 08, 2007 8:35 am

Even under those conditions, sensitivity of two piece rods compared to one piece is insignificant. As for not making one piece rods if two piece ones were more sensitive, most likely, one piece rods are less costly to make. If looking for sensitivity, one best go for the rod with a high modulus factor. As for feeling the bite when fly fishing as opposed to watching the line, sensitiviy is important for feeling the bite, as well as line control.

fishinfoflounder · Post by **fishinfoflounder** » Tue May 08, 2007 10:54 am

greyloon wrote:Even under those conditions, sensitivity of two piece rods compared to one piece is insignificant. As for not making one piece rods if two piece ones were more sensitive, most likely, one piece rods are less costly to make. If looking for sensitivity, one best go for the rod with a high modulus factor. As for feeling the bite when fly fishing as opposed to watching the line, sensitiviy is important for feeling the bite, as well as line control.

I'm not certain but I believe if you look in most rod building catalogues 1 piece blanks are more expensive than 2 pc. An uninterupted plane of material is always more sensitive & stronger than 2 pieces linked together by whatever means. And with my relatively minimal flyfishing adventures sensitivity has virtually no effect on detecting a strike.

greyloon · Post by **greyloon** » Tue May 08, 2007 12:51 pm

Light bites when fly fishing, just as when bass fishing, are best felt with a sensitive rod. It makes a difference. My high modulus graphite fly rod telegraphs the lite bite quickly and its not watching the line. That's especially true in low light conditions or when fishing deep with a fly rod. In the world of fly fishing, at least that I'm used to, sensitivity is important. The number of pieces is pretty insignificant compared to the quality of the rod blank.

As for one piece blanks being more expensive, sometimes yes, sometimes no. Again, it depends on the blank. One reason they may appear more expensive is that the high quality blanks tend to be one piece...as much demand as anything else and the cheaper blanks come either way.

fishinfoflounder · Post by **fishinfoflounder** » Tue May 08, 2007 1:13 pm

greyloon wrote:As for one piece blanks being more expensive, sometimes yes, sometimes no. Again, it depends on the blank. One reason they may appear more expensive is that the high quality blanks tend to be one piece...as much demand as anything else and the cheaper blanks come either way.

Because they're more sensitive in a one piece construction. The manufacturers know this. Truth's truth.

Mark R · Post by **Mark R** » Tue May 08, 2007 1:26 pm

fishinfoflounder wrote:Truth's truth.

In the mouth of the beholder. I use both in several lengths and weights. There is no significant difference.

fishinfoflounder · Post by **fishinfoflounder** » Tue May 08, 2007 3:09 pm

tropview wrote:
fishinfoflounder wrote:Truth's truth.
In the mouth of the beholder. I use both in several lengths and weights. There is no significant difference.

Maybe you're just numb.Poor circulation possibly.

John · Post by **John** » Tue May 08, 2007 3:37 pm

So far as strength try cranking in a 90 lb. king on a 2 piece. Does the word splinters mean anything to you?

I'd like to see that 90lb king!

I have landed a 77lb Nile Perch, a fish from the same genus as the Snook, yes imagine a 77lb Snook, running, jumping, leaping, sounding, I played that fish to the shore in less than a half hour, and my two piece rod was never in danger of splintering or being under powered in strength.

Like I said in Europe, multi-piece rods are the norm, for all kinds of fishing some with so much sensitivity you can feel a 6 ounce fish bite, with 30 yards of line out. I

I've fished with them for over 30 years never yet have I had one of my rods come apart, sure if some idiot who doesn't know what he's doing doesn't push them together and then twist them to line them up, it can happen.

We're fishing for hard hitting saltwater fish, I stand by my comments that a two piece rod is every bit as serviceable as a one piece.

I built my own three piece rod, on a St. Croix Avid blank, I've handed people that rod, to fish with and every single person fell in love with it's, action and sensitivity, most did not even realise it was a multi-piece until I told them.

All of them asked me to build them one the same.

I really don't care for spinning tackle anyway

Seems you don't fish with two peice spinning tackle yet you're still an expert on them

fishinfoflounder · Post by **fishinfoflounder** » Tue May 08, 2007 4:10 pm

John wrote:

I really don't care for spinning tackle anyway
Seems you don't fish with two peice spinning tackle yet you're still an expert on them

I know enough about them to know they're inferior. Trinkets for women & children. That's why I don't fish with them, guess I just outgrew them.

mudfoot · Post by **mudfoot** » Tue May 08, 2007 4:21 pm

FishingDL · Post by **FishingDL** » Tue May 08, 2007 4:55 pm

90 lb King would win a lot of tournaments!! They also probably would not ask you at the weigh in if you used a 1 piece rod or a 2 piece rod.

fishinfoflounder · Post by **fishinfoflounder** » Tue May 08, 2007 5:06 pm

FishingDL wrote:90 lb King would win a lot of tournaments!! They also probably would not ask you at the weigh in if you used a 1 piece rod or a 2 piece rod.

They wouldn't have to. Anybody with half a brain knows fishing a 2 piece would end up " The one that got away"

John · Post by **John** » Tue May 08, 2007 5:21 pm

Sounds like ColeMarston talking is it another incarnation?

I'd still like to see a pic of that 90lb king!

Here's some video of Nile Perch for your pleasure. I also hooked up with a few fish over 100LBS, Rod didn't snap but the line did!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYNtev1iHls

And I doubt this fish went a 100lb, closer to 80lb, and that's why they didn't weigh him

Heres some Limey's doing it too!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq6QmEsC49E

I gotta tell you, tis the best damn eating fish i ever tasted too.

I hope to go back in a few years and try it again.

fishinfoflounder · Post by **fishinfoflounder** » Tue May 08, 2007 5:57 pm

If you're going to go to the trouble of sending a video make sure you got your shit straight. The rod in the video wasn't a spinning rod or 2 piece. That's probably not you fishing either.

FishingDL · Post by **FishingDL** » Tue May 08, 2007 7:00 pm

He didn't say it was. Just showing what a Nile Perch is.

Chill

Paddle-Fishing.com

One-piece vs 2-piece rods

Sensitivty

1 piece,stronger,more sensitive,more sense

Looks like conventional tackle