flurocarbon - "the geeks don't want no freaks"
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Re: flurocarbon - "the geeks don't want no freaks"
You may want to try switching up the angles on the fish as you fight it, just sitting on top of them and pulling up does not tire them out much.
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Re: flurocarbon - "the geeks don't want no freaks"
Agree with BF, it's all about changing the angle and turning the fish, keeping them going against the grain and making them work.
Not letting them take a breather, if you rest they rest, every gulp of fresh air they get gives them a boost.
From a boat, it's possible to whip them in 15 minutes.
Not letting them take a breather, if you rest they rest, every gulp of fresh air they get gives them a boost.
From a boat, it's possible to whip them in 15 minutes.
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Re: flurocarbon - "the geeks don't want no freaks"
I think its easier to get it done quicker in a kayak then a boat. In a kayak you never get 200 yards of line out of the reel. You stay right with the fish and have constant pressure. When the fish runs, she pulls you along with her.
You watch guys in a boat and they always have long pulls of line from the reel. Then they fire up the engine to go catch up with the fish. That catching up part gives the fish a big break. Plus, when the fish has a lot of line off the reel it is hard to change direction of pull.
Constantly changing direction of the pull is key. It is more effective when you are close to the fish.
You watch guys in a boat and they always have long pulls of line from the reel. Then they fire up the engine to go catch up with the fish. That catching up part gives the fish a big break. Plus, when the fish has a lot of line off the reel it is hard to change direction of pull.
Constantly changing direction of the pull is key. It is more effective when you are close to the fish.
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Re: flurocarbon - "the geeks don't want no freaks"
I agree with the getting it done quick in a kayak. Easier to keep steady pressure on them.Rik wrote:I think its easier to get it done quicker in a kayak then a boat. In a kayak you never get 200 yards of line out of the reel. You stay right with the fish and have constant pressure. When the fish runs, she pulls you along with her. Constantly changing direction of the pull is key.
And about technique and steady pressure, I know some fly guys that get them in under 15 minutes or less with hard constant pressure.
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Re: flurocarbon - "the geeks don't want no freaks"
Every fish is different you never know how long it will take. Do all the right things and some fish just don't want to be caught and have an extremely strong will. Just try to do the right thing and it will all work out.
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Re: flurocarbon - "the geeks don't want no freaks"
Don't let 'em breath! Get that rod underwater when ever you see your leader.
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Re: flurocarbon - "the geeks don't want no freaks"
Thanks for the demo jb.
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Re: flurocarbon - "the geeks don't want no freaks"
Constantly changing angles is going to wear through leader quicker.
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Bollox
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Re: flurocarbon - "the geeks don't want no freaks"
Now now no need for that kind of language. Let's look at it logically. A Tarpon is nothing if it isn't a hard surfaced fish. While fighting them they are turned away from us. The line is laying against the fishes face and body depending on the angle. Changing angles (Which is the right thing to do) moves the line across that hard surface. Which in turn wears down a leader.Also if you use a loop knot you are wearing the line against the hooks eye.Bollox
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Re: flurocarbon - "the geeks don't want no freaks"
The fish is turning their head back and forth maybe 60+ times a min not sure if changing angles will do much more than that.
Re: flurocarbon - "the geeks don't want no freaks"
Interesting test, but there are some problems. One thing that isn't a problem is using tapwater. The index of refraction difference between saltwater and tapwater isn't that much. What is a problem is that the spectrum of light from inside lamps is not the same as natural light, and also the camera has wavelength sensitivity that is outside the range of what your eye and fish can see.
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Re: flurocarbon - "the geeks don't want no freaks"
"A ship is safe in harbor, but that's not what ships are for"shamus wrote:Now now no need for that kind of language. Let's look at it logically. A Tarpon is nothing if it isn't a hard surfaced fish. While fighting them they are turned away from us. The line is laying against the fishes face and body depending on the angle. Changing angles (Which is the right thing to do) moves the line across that hard surface. Which in turn wears down a leader.Also if you use a loop knot you are wearing the line against the hooks eye.Bollox
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Hence theDustin wrote:Interesting test, but there are some problems. One thing that isn't a problem is using tapwater. The index of refraction difference between saltwater and tapwater isn't that much. What is a problem is that the spectrum of light from inside lamps is not the same as natural light, and also the camera has wavelength sensitivity that is outside the range of what your eye and fish can see.
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Re: flurocarbon - "the geeks don't want no freaks"
There is little difference in the various flurocarbon leaders tested. The next round put some mono leaders in the same picture. Then we can see if there is a difference.
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TRKpoker wrote:The fish is turning their head back and forth maybe 60+ times a min not sure if changing angles will do much more than that.
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