The good folks at Economy Tackle in Sarasota let me use a Native Ultimate 14 from their rental fleet this past weekend. I've owned several other kayaks and canoes but none of them impressed me enough to want to keep them in my fleet. None of them were worthy of replacing one of my old style Tarpon 16's.
Well, this boat will likely become part of my fleet (hear that Santa?)
I can see myself owning one of these boats. I doubt I'd use it for a long haul, as that is something the Tarpon 16 does very well, but for those regular days of a few miles, it is hard to beat.
I'd been told by many that they have the finest seat out there. I'd have to agree. 60 seconds after sitting in it the first time, I was convinced. It is fairly adjustable and like sitting in a lounge chair. I found myself wishing it had some sort of head support attachment so I could lean back and take a nap.
After a little over an hour, I did not have that loud voice from my lower back warning me that I need to get out and stretch for 15 minutes. When in a kayak, that voice yells every hour like clockwork.
For all you 'regular' guys who can only chuckle when that lean 22 year old talks about how easy it is to stand in (insert kayak brand here), this boat is standable by a guy like me. DaveR took some pics, hopefully he will post them. I was reasonably comfortable and only had to exercise one Emergency Exit From Standing Position that resulted in a rather resounding plop into the seat. I'm sure that after a few more trips I'd be much steadier.
The paddling did take some getting used to after many years paddling kayaks. With the sides being a bit higher, you do have to adjust your arms to keep from hitting the sides. I also found that a higher angle stroke performed better.
One thing I'd like is a way to raise the seat at times. Maybe Native has something for this. When just drifting some mangroves fishing, it would be nice to be up about gunnel height.
Also, do they make a rudder for this boat?
Native Ultimate 14 - pics added
Native Ultimate 14 - pics added
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Rudder is available.......
www.nativewatercraft.com
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ultimate rudder
The link does not show a rudder for the Ultimate. Others in the line , yes.
I would like to hear opinions on the Magic. A rudder kit exists for it.
I have a 14-5 Ultimate & 2nd Ricks comments.
I would like to hear opinions on the Magic. A rudder kit exists for it.
I have a 14-5 Ultimate & 2nd Ricks comments.
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Glad to hear you liked it Rik, I too am looking into getting one.
Anyone have any good rigging ideas for rod holders?
Anyone have any good rigging ideas for rod holders?
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While that may be one reason I certainly wouldn't put it anywhere near the top of the list. I have owned many kayaks, from multiple manufacturers and have yet to have this problem.americanrobster wrote: The reason that I want one of these kayaks is due to not having scuppers that will crack and leak.
Stability and comfort are what I like about this craft. If Rik is comfortable and can stand in the thing that's two biggies. He's not comfortable in anything much less than an easy chair and his body shape.... Well let's just say like many of us he don't wear 30" jeans any more and standing in kayaks ain't as easy as it is for the less round. Now it's easy to build a kayak that's easy to stand in but it's a bit of a barge to paddle. (Hello Malibu) Rik didn't seem to slow much in the Native compared to his normal cruising speed in the t160. If I could I'd pick one up tomorrow. No doubt.
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I have owned many kayaks from four different manufacturers and have never had a scupper leak.DaveR wrote:While that may be one reason I certainly wouldn't put it anywhere near the top of the list. I have owned many kayaks, from multiple manufacturers and have yet to have this problem.americanrobster wrote: The reason that I want one of these kayaks is due to not having scuppers that will crack and leak.
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See mine in rigged boats. Not sure if its good, but it works for me.seeinred wrote:Glad to hear you liked it Rik, I too am looking into getting one.
Anyone have any good rigging ideas for rod holders?
http://paddle-fishing-forum.com/viewtop ... ght=native
I have since modified my forward rod holder with a piece of bungee cord from foot bracket to foot bracket which holds the tube down so that I don't need to remove it when I put it on my van and it also allows me to slip a small tackle box under it.
I saw some else (I think Mudfoot) post a pic using a small "L" bracket and a hose clamp to keep the thwart tube from rotating, I'll see if I can find the pic.
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Native Ultimate 14.5